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Mid-Season Grade: D-minus

January 25th, 2008 · 32 Comments

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Well sports fans, the Cavs have played 41 games, which means it’s time for mid-season grades for Larry Hughes!

Games Played:  Grade = D
Larry missed 34% of the first 41 games due to a bone bruise injury sustained in mid-November. When you’re making $12 million a season, missing fourteen games in the first half of the season is 14 too many. 

Shooting Performance: Grade = F-minus
FG: 33%
3PT FG: 28%
FT: 86%
eFG: 37%
TS: 40.9%

How bad has his shooting been? His 33% on field goals ranks him DEAD LAST out the 65 shooting guards in the NBA.

larry hughes PER through 27 games

And his 3 point shooting percentage is even worse. Did you know that Manute Bol shot better on 3-pointers in his 92-93 season than what Larry is tossing up in 2007-2008? For those of you who are too young to remember, Manute had such an awkward shot that teammates and fans alike would laugh at the sight of him taking a three pointer. But Manute still shot better than Larry this season. Making this more unbelievable is that Manute had a birth defect that left his right hand with 3 clawed fingersIt’s true!

Some may ask ”what about his 86% FT shooting in the first half?” and I say… WHO CARES! He’s only averaging 1.6 FT attempts per game and he’s had ZERO free throw attempts in 17 out of the 27 games he’s played this season.

And for those Hughes fans that blame Mike Brown’s offense because it doesn’t suit Larry’s awesome ”slasher” capabilities, I present to you this stat: Larry is shooting 29-79 (36%) on shots within 2 feet of the basket. Wouldn’t the area right underneath the basket be the ultimate “slasher zone” for a slasher? Or is he a medium-range-slasher?

Player Efficiency Rating: Grade F

This is a nifty stat provided by ESPN’s John Hollinger. If you’re not familiar with PER, here’s a quick explanation:

The formula, which Hollinger calls the Player Efficiency Rating (PER), takes into account positive accomplishments, such as field goals, free throws, 3-pointers, assists, rebounds, blocks and steals, and negative ones, such as missed shots, turnovers and personal fouls. The formula adds positive stats and subtracts negative ones through a statistical point value system. The rating for each player is then adjusted to a per-minute basis so that, for example, you can compare subs with starters in frequent playing time debates. It is also adjusted for the team’s pace. In the end, one number sums up the players’ accomplishments (the statistical ones, anyway) for that season.

So how does Larry Rank? 
#60 out of 65 Shooting Guards in the NBA
#277 out of 297 players in the NBA.

The Intangibles: Grade = D+

Another stat that attempts to measure the intangibles is the “On Court vs Off Court Data” provided by 82Games.com. It’s a simple concept: it examines how a team plays with and without a player. It gives a pretty good sense of how well that player is fitting in with the roster and gets at all of the ‘little things’ that current statistics don’t track (setting screens, taking charges, drawing double teams, etc).

The Cavaliers score .5 fewer points on offense when Larry is in the game. And on defense they give up 2.1 more points, which means Larry scores -2.6 for this stat. Translation: the Cavs perform better with him OFF the court than with him on the court. (Note: his +/- was -5 before Wednesday’s blowout against the Wiz.) While some may consider this stat to be unfair because Larry hasn’t played in all the games this year, his 2007-2008 performance is actually better than his Plus/Minus from the 2006-2007 season.

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Final Grade: D-minus 

It’s no secret that Larry’s been struggling all season, but it’s shocking that his crappiness has been so consistent. Larry has failed to shoot better than 37% in consecutive games all season. He’s shot worse than 35% in 17 games and he’s shot below 50% in 22. If he’s a streaky shooter, this is the longest bad streak of his career.

So why not an F? Well, he’s got decent rebound stats, and we have a few commenters here that insist he’s a great defensive contributor to this team. (Mind you, this is not 2004 and he’s not playing for the Wizards.) And I’m sure they haven’t noticed the trend of Mike Brown benching our defensive wunderkind during 4th quarter crunchtime, but I’m sure that’s the right way to handle a player of Larry’s defensive prowess. 

 With numbers like these…

If Larry Hughes was still in high school, he would have been demoted to the JV team. If Larry was in college, they would have shipped him off to the intramural leagues. But Larry plays for the Cleveland Cavaliers, so it only makes sense that he’s been promoted to be our starting point guard.  

Manute Bol on Guitar

Tags: 2007-2008 Season · Best Of

32 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Basketball » Mid-Season Grade: D-minus // Jan 25, 2008 at 10:46 am

    […] clefan wrote a fantastic post today on “Mid-Season Grade: D-minus”Here’s ONLY a quick extractIf Larry was in college, they would have shipped him off to the intramural leagues. But Larry plays for the Cleveland Cavaliers, so it only makes sense that he’s been promoted to be our starting point guard. Manute Bol on Guitar. […]

  • 2 Mortimer // Jan 25, 2008 at 11:57 am

    You went too easy on him.

  • 3 Tom // Jan 25, 2008 at 11:58 am

    With Sasha out for 6-8 weeks, let’s look for Larry to “step up” his game.

  • 4 David // Jan 25, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    I repeat my statement from the start of the season:

    Larry Hughes is about as useful as a physics book on the short bus to the Cavs.

    Larry Hughes < Awful

  • 5 Gmoney // Jan 25, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    Bill/Eric Snow, how do you defend this evidence that your boyfriend sucks???

    Larry may be dead last, but Sasha is third to last!!! Cavs basketball!!!

  • 6 Matt // Jan 25, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Manute Bol! LOL! That is classic!

    I’m starting to hate Ray Allen, Michael Redd, and Joe Johnson more and more each day … any one of those three playing the “2″ for the Cavs and we would have a Championship by now. It was not Ferry’s fault or Hughes’s fault that those guys didn’t want to come here. I guess people just really don’t want to come to (or stay in) Cleveland.

  • 7 Bill // Jan 25, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Gmoney,

    I cannot defend this…

    Larry Hughes is truly a horrific jump shooter, which is why i keep telling Mikey Brown to let me run the point.

    Sincerely,
    Eric Snow

    P.S. - He is not my boyfriend, i don’t like my men in ink…

  • 8 greatgoo // Jan 25, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    This website is unreal.

  • 9 John // Jan 25, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Great post. One quibble though … I don’t understand this comment:

    “It’s no secret that Larry’s been struggling all season, but it’s his consistency that has me really worried.”

    Larry HAS been consistent all season; it’s just not the kind of consistency one would normally want out of a shooting guard.

    BTW, nice to see Sasha being third from last on the FG% chart. (BTW part II, I call shotgun on “www.heysashapavlovicpleasegetyourheadoutofyourass.com”)

    Aside to Matt: Redd and Allen were all about the Benjamins — they could get more money by re-signing with their teams.

  • 10 clefan // Jan 25, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Good feedback John. I was trying to imply his crappiness was consistent. But I tweaked it to make the point a bit more clear.

  • 11 John // Jan 25, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    This is my new favorite website. When I went to the Cavs/Wizards game they announced that it was Larry Hughes’ birthday. The birthday announcement was the only time all game he received applause.
    On a side note I believe that Sasha injured his foot on Hughes’ dunk. I am a firm believer that Larry Hughes is the cancer that is eating away our fine team.

  • 12 Nemy // Jan 25, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Classic post

  • 13 Simone // Jan 25, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    Hughes doesnt’ take bad shots, he just can’t shoot! simple.
    so the site had to be called “heylarryhughespleasestoptakinganyshot”

  • 14 Joe // Jan 25, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    AWWW THIS IS SUCH A BULLSHIT!!!
    AND IM A LAKER FAN…

    LARRY HUGHES IS BETTER THAN MOST OF THA GUARDS IN THA LEAGUE
    …DEFENSIVELY

    I DON’T BLAME MIKE BROWN…HE IS A
    GOOD COACH…

    CLEAVELAND FANS U NEED TO BLAME
    KING JAMES!!!

    HOW CAN PLAYERS LIKE LARRY HUGHES, BOOBIE GIBSON, SASHA PAVOLIVIC, OR ANY OTHER PLAYERS CAN PLAY WELL?
    WHEN LEBRON IS PLAYING POINT FOWARD!!!

    HE’S DRIBBLING DOWN THA COURT
    AND SHOOTS, AND HIS TEAMMATES ARE JUST WATCHING LEBRON…

    ITS ALL LEBRON’S FAULT CLEVELAND CAVALIERS HAS NO NATURAL FLOW OF ANY KINDA OFFENSE

    LARRY PLAYED WITH A BALL HOGS BEFORE….LIKE GIBERT ARENAS
    BUT HUGHES STILL DROPED OVER 20 A GAME, MORE THAN 6 REBOUNDS AND 5 ASSIST

    BUT WITH LEBRON…DAT JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN…

    LEBRON IS SUCH A SELFISH PLAYERS WHO WANNA DO EVERYTHING….

    HE WANTS TO DROP 30 POINTS A GAME AND HAVE TRIPPLE DUBBLE

    THAT’S NOT HELPING NOBODY BUT HIMSELF

    I HOPE CLEVELAND TRADE HUGHES FOR JASON KIDD OR MIKE BIBBY OR SOMETHING

    WATCH HUGHES WILL PLAY BETTER
    IF HE PLAY FOR SOME OTHER TEAM

    I BET U LARRY HUGHES WILL SCORE MORE THAN 20 A GAME AND HAVE 5 ASSIST/REBOUNDS IN OTHER TEAMS

    N, O WELL TONIGHT HE SCORE 25 POINTS
    6-13FG% 3-5TP% 10-11FT% 3 STL NO TURN OVERS

    HOW CAN U CALL URSELF A FAN

  • 15 Craig // Jan 25, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    did anyone read the joe “AND IM A LAKER FAN…” comment?

    CUZ I DIDN.T!!!! HAHA! i stopped at that.

    silly lakers fans… but that.s what you get when yer heroes are adulterers, cheaters, cry babies and … well the list goes on.. but i.ll keep it rated PG. (why do laker fans come on here anyway?)

    back to larry hughes!!! — he is truly a modern day marvel… i.m speachless. isn.t there a clause in his contract.. that says.. if you suck really really really bad…(which he does) that we can fire him… and he goes home and doesn.t get any more $$$…. there sure as hell should be.

  • 16 I TYPE IN ALL CAPS // Jan 25, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    I TYPE IN ALL CAPS TO SHOW HOW BIG OF AN IDIOT I AM

  • 17 non-minion // Jan 25, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    anyone who comments in support of this website is the minion of a stalker. a man who stalks other men. simply put.

  • 18 Craig // Jan 26, 2008 at 12:46 am

    (NERD ALERT!!!! ¿non-minion? NERD ALERT!!!)

    (i.m in shock of how people get to this website who LIKE LARRY HUGHES! it.s astonishing! when i searched for this site i looked up, larry+hughes+sucks! and bingo here i am! how do non-minion supportive man stalkers (whatever that means…??) and laker fans who like hughes arrive here?)

    non-minions are amazing people! kudos to non-minions! NON-MINIONS UNITE!!!! (wait, what did i say? i feel like beetlejuice is guna knock on my door now)

    HAHAHAHAH!!!!! SPEAK LOUDLY MINIONS!

    hughes had a good game!!!!! too bad i missed it…. :( (oh and we still lost with his good game, which should be an average $12million night for him)

    BOOOO!!!!!!!!

  • 19 TK // Jan 26, 2008 at 12:58 am

    this website is the best thing since lebron james being drafted. “Mid Range Slasher”, priceless!

  • 20 Larry Hughes // Jan 26, 2008 at 7:06 am

    LH was nice last night, where’s the love

  • 21 nerd alert: // Jan 26, 2008 at 11:10 am

    guy who comments on a blog at 12:46 am on a friday. better yourself somehow rather than encouraging some dude who spends everyday e-stalking larry hughes.

  • 22 Craig // Jan 26, 2008 at 11:31 am

    nerd alert…. who ever you are…. (wink wink)

    you wana give me advice, well then here is some for you.

    better yerself by refraining from commenting on this website, and also by no longer telling me what to do….. what makes you think i live in the same time-zone as you nerd alert? - guy who likes to say what time i commented on a webpage (STALKER!!!)

    oooo i can.t wait until the new post comes out today… i.m stuck here with nerd alert: reading old posts!

    HELP!

  • 23 Larry Spews // Jan 26, 2008 at 11:54 am

    I am sending this out to Joe…AKA-Laker fan.
    Joe, allow me to introduce you to the English language.
    English language …this is Douchebag
    Douchebag…this is the English language.
    There, now all introductions have been made.
    Reading your post has just caused me to pound 4 Motrin due to the incredible headache that it has caused. If you did not complete the 4th grade, please don’t attempt to communicate with those of us who know basketball, and those of us who understand that Larry Hughes is a huge waste of 12 million. Even if his shot selection continues to suck (which is about 100% likely), a starting point guard should average more than 2-3 assists per game. Why don’t you go back to your Laker site,
    http://www.kobewasjusthelpingthatchickgetoverafence.com

  • 24 jonathan // Jan 26, 2008 at 11:57 am

    im a laker fan, but i realize that kobe is WAY WAY WAY more of a ballhog than lebron. lebron is way to unselfish. lebron can average 40 and still get 5 assist, but he takes possesions off to get his team involved. lebron is one of the most unselfish players in the legaue and he is arguably the best.

  • 25 jonathan // Jan 26, 2008 at 11:59 am

    WAIT ……. I JUST HAD A REVALTION, ARE YOU SURE THE CAVS ARE PAYING LARRY 12 MILLION, OR LARRY IS PAYING THE CAVS 12 MILLION?????????????????

  • 26 Mike // Jan 26, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Larry sould be renamed the Human Turnover…

  • 27 hughesux // Jan 27, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    here are some players that get payed less than larry.
    For all of u gay hughes supporters, this is my main complaint about him: OVERPAID
    g. arenas, p. stojavic, c. boozer (i know), s. nash, j. richardson, kirk hinrich, josh howard, billups, hamilton, prince, DWIGHT HOWARD, t. parker, m. ginobli, b. bowen, rudy gay, m. okur, deron williams, and caron butler to name a few.

  • 28 Will // Jan 28, 2008 at 11:32 am

    I’ve mentioned this before, but it’s worth repeating - the nature of PER actually OVERvalues his contribution to the team. With PER, as long as a player shoots at least 33% (!), his score will rise as he takes more shots. So even the worst ’shooting’ guard in the NBA will raise his PER score by taking more shots.

    A better metric is Win Score, which shows how pathetic Larry has been this year. He really, truly, has made the team worse with his presence.

  • 29 Ian Ellis // Aug 20, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    i bet all of u in real life actually suck really bad at basketball to be honest

  • 30 Ian Ellis // Aug 20, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    and there are lots of players that are worst than larry hughes you could criticize, like……..JASON KIDD or BEN WALLACE and thats just the tip of my tongue

  • 31 Andrew // Jan 5, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    I was reading through these posts at work and I can’t hold back laughing anymore I feel so sick I think i might throw up. I am going to have to restrain myself and read the rest of this at home. BRB going to go laugh in the toilet.

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